{"id":96998,"date":"2025-03-01T11:27:10","date_gmt":"2025-03-01T09:27:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/?p=96998"},"modified":"2025-03-01T11:27:10","modified_gmt":"2025-03-01T09:27:10","slug":"in-urma-cu-3-secole-in-anglia-se-vorbea-si-limba-romana-veche-rugaciunea-tatal-nostru-din-1715-in-dialectul-celtic-din-anglia-poerinthele-nostru-cela-ce-esti-en-cheri","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/in-urma-cu-3-secole-in-anglia-se-vorbea-si-limba-romana-veche-rugaciunea-tatal-nostru-din-1715-in-dialectul-celtic-din-anglia-poerinthele-nostru-cela-ce-esti-en-cheri\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00cen urm\u0103 cu 3 secole, \u00een Anglia se vorbea \u015fi limba rom\u00e2n\u0103 veche! Rug\u0103ciunea &#8222;Tat\u0103l nostru&#8221; din 1715, \u00een dialectul celtic din Anglia: &#8222;Poerinthele nostru cela ce esti en cheri&#8230;&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Anglia-Tatal-nostru.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft  wp-image-96999\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Anglia-Tatal-nostru.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"349\" height=\"283\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Anglia-Tatal-nostru.jpg 542w, https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Anglia-Tatal-nostru-300x244.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 349px) 100vw, 349px\" \/><\/a>Spirit enciclopedic, jurist, lingvist, folclorist, publicist, istoric \u0219i om politic, <strong>Bogdan Petriceicu Ha\u015fdeu<\/strong> (1838-1907) a fost un scriitor \u0219i filolog rom\u00e2n, pionier \u00een diferite ramuri ale filologiei \u0219i istoriei rom\u00e2ne\u0219ti. \u00cen 1875, Ha\u015fdeu public\u0103 o lucrare \u00een care prezint\u0103 rug\u0103ciunea <em><strong>&#8222;Tat\u0103l nostru&#8221;<\/strong><\/em>, scris \u00een dialectul celtic din provincia Wallace din <strong>Anglia<\/strong> \u0219i cuprins \u00een lucrarea, din 1715, a englezului <strong>Chamberlayn<\/strong>. Citi\u021bi \u0219i v\u0103 minuna\u021bi c\u00e2t de bine se aseam\u0103n\u0103 cu limba rom\u00e2n\u0103:<\/p>\n<p><em>Poerinthele nostru cela ce e\u0219ti en cheri<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Svintzascoese numele teu<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Vie emperetzioe ta<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Facoesa voe ta, cum en tzer ase \u0219i pre poementu<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Poene noastre datorii le nostre,<\/em><br \/>\n<em>cum \u0219i noi se loesoem datorniczilor nostri<\/em><br \/>\n<em>\u0218i nu dutze pre noi la ispitire<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Tze ne mentueste pre noi de vicleanil. Amin.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Cum de este o asem\u0103nare at\u00e2t de frapant\u0103 \u00eentre dialectul celtic din Anglia de acum 3 secole cu limba rom\u00e2n\u0103? \u00cen secolul al XIX-lea de mai mul\u0163i istorici rom\u00e2ni, cum ar fi <strong>Ioan Maiorescu<\/strong> \u015fi <strong>Obedenaru<\/strong>, au sus\u0163inut c\u0103 <strong>geto-dacii<\/strong> s-ar trage din <strong>cel\u0163i<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Cel\u0163ii tr\u0103iau \u00een antichitate \u00een centrul \u015fi vestul Europei \u015fi au fost unul dintre popoarele \u00eensemnate ale lumii antice. \u00cen mileniul I \u00ee.Hr., cel\u0163ii ocupau un teritoriu reprezentat ast\u0103zi de centrul \u015fi sudul <strong>Fran\u0163ei<\/strong> (denumit\u0103 Galia), de <strong>Germania<\/strong> \u015fi nordul <strong>Italiei<\/strong>. Se \u00eenvecinau la nord cu germanii, la est cu tracii, la sud cu popoarele italice \u015fi cu grecii din coloniile grece\u015fti. Argumentul principal al partizanilor acestei teorii este acela c\u0103 cel\u0163ii au r\u0103t\u0103cit si prin estul Europei, str\u0103mut\u00e2ndu-se p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een Asia, unde au alc\u0103tuit <strong>&#8222;poporul Gala\u0163ilor&#8221;<\/strong>. De\u015fi acest fapt este net\u0103g\u0103duit, el nu este \u00eendestul\u0103tor pentru a dovedi originea celtic\u0103 a popoarelor de la Dun\u0103re.<\/p>\n<p>C\u00e2t despre apropierile lingvistice dintre limba vechilor daci \u015fi limba cel\u0163ilor, se invoc\u0103 urm\u0103toarele analogii: ora\u015ful <strong>Deva<\/strong> cu <strong>Devonshire<\/strong> din Anglia, <strong>Timi\u015ful<\/strong> cu <strong>Tamisa<\/strong> (r\u00e2ul care trece prin Londra), <strong>Gala\u0163i<\/strong>, ora\u015ful de pe Dun\u0103re, cu poporul Gala\u0163ilor din Asia \u015fi a\u015fa mai departe. Tot ca argumente \u00een sprijinul acestei teorii sunt identit\u0103\u0163ile de schimb\u0103ri fonetice ce s-ar observa \u00eentre limbile celtice \u015fi limba rom\u00e2n\u0103, ca de exemplu prefacerea lui <em>c<\/em> latin \u00een <em>p<\/em>, sau a lui <em>f<\/em> \u00een <em>h<\/em>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Spirit enciclopedic, jurist, lingvist, folclorist, publicist, istoric \u0219i om politic, Bogdan Petriceicu Ha\u015fdeu (1838-1907) a fost un scriitor \u0219i filolog rom\u00e2n, pionier \u00een diferite ramuri ale filologiei \u0219i istoriei rom\u00e2ne\u0219ti. \u00cen 1875, Ha\u015fdeu public\u0103 o lucrare \u00een care prezint\u0103 rug\u0103ciunea &#8230; <\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more-container\"><a title=\"\u00cen urm\u0103 cu 3 secole, \u00een Anglia se vorbea \u015fi limba rom\u00e2n\u0103 veche! 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