{"id":40494,"date":"2015-09-22T10:53:05","date_gmt":"2015-09-22T07:53:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/?p=40494"},"modified":"2015-09-22T10:53:05","modified_gmt":"2015-09-22T07:53:05","slug":"ministrul-de-externe-ungar-noi-suntem-un-stat-vechi-de-peste-1-000-de-ani-care-de-a-lungul-istoriei-sale-a-trebuit-sa-se-apere-nu-doar-pe-sine-ci-si-europa-ce-spui-tu-monser-iar-noi-romani","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/ministrul-de-externe-ungar-noi-suntem-un-stat-vechi-de-peste-1-000-de-ani-care-de-a-lungul-istoriei-sale-a-trebuit-sa-se-apere-nu-doar-pe-sine-ci-si-europa-ce-spui-tu-monser-iar-noi-romani\/","title":{"rendered":"Ministrul de externe ungar: &#8222;Noi suntem un stat vechi de peste 1.000 de ani, care de-a lungul istoriei sale a trebuit s\u0103 se apere nu doar pe sine, ci \u015fi Europa&#8221;! Ce spui tu, mon\u015fer!? Iar noi, rom\u00e2nii, avem 2.000 de ani de vechime!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-40495\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/ungaria.jpg\" alt=\"ungaria\" width=\"333\" height=\"205\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/ungaria.jpg 333w, https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/ungaria-300x184.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 333px) 100vw, 333px\" \/>Am ajuns anul acesta la Budapesta (Ungaria), pe care am vizitat-o dintr-un cap\u0103t \u00een altul. Ora\u015ful este mult mai frumos dec\u00e2t Bucure\u015ftiul, capitala noastr\u0103, \u00eens\u0103 cel mai mult te impresioneaz\u0103 nivelul ridicat de civiliza\u0163ie, \u015fi, oric\u00e2t de na\u0163ionalist a\u015f fi, noi, rom\u00e2nii, din p\u0103cate, nu ne putem ridica la nivelul lor de civiliza\u0163ie.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen schimb, nu pot s\u0103 stau impasibil la declara\u0163iile recente ale ministrului ungar de externe, Peter Szijjarto, care s-a luat la ceart\u0103 cu guvernul rom\u00e2n. Nu m\u0103 intereseaz\u0103 polemica ministrului cu premierul Ponta; dar, \u00een schimb, m\u0103 deranjeaz\u0103 denaturarea adev\u0103rului istoric.<\/p>\n<p>Citez de pe <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hotnews.ro\/stiri-politic-20441687-ministrul-ungar-externe-acuza-victor-ponta-minte-constant-calomniaza-ungaria-atitudinea-este-rusinea-europei.htm\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>hotnews.ro<\/strong><\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Ministerul ungar al Afacerilor Externe l-a convocat pe ambasadorul roman la Budapesta, luni, in urma declaratiilor facute sambata de ministrul roman de Externe, Bogdan Aurescu. Acesta spunea ca ridicarea de garduri &#8222;este un gest mai degraba autist si inacceptabil&#8221;, care incalca spiritul Uniunii Europene. Ministrul ungar de Externe, Peter Szijjarto, a reactionat spunand ca s-ar &#8222;astepta la mai multa modestie din partea unui ministru de Externe al carui premier se confrunta cu un proces. Ne-am astepta la mai multa modestie din partea unui ministru de Externe al carui premier se confrunta cu un proces (&#8230;) <strong>Noi suntem un stat vechi de peste 1.000 de ani, care de-a lungul istoriei sale a trebuit sa se apere nu doar pe sine, ci si Europa, de multe ori.<\/strong> Asa va fi si acum, fie ca ministrului roman de Externe ii place sau nu.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"clear\">\n<p>Dac\u0103 Ungaria e un stat vechi de 1.000 de ani, noi suntem un stat vechi de peste 2.000 de ani. \u00cen plus, noi suntem b\u0103\u015ftina\u015fi, pe c\u00e2nd ungurii au fost migratori. M\u0103 face s\u0103 r\u00e2d acest ministru. El \u015ftie cu adev\u0103rat istorie? C\u00e2nd a ap\u0103rat Ungaria \u00eentreaga Europ\u0103 de Imperiul Otoman? \u00cen urma b\u0103t\u0103liei de la Mohacs (1526), \u00een care Imperiul Otoman a \u00eenvins &#8222;Ungaria Mare&#8221;, o parte din Ungaria a fost transformat\u0103 \u00een pa\u015fal\u00e2c turcesc, iar o alt\u0103 parte a trecut la Imperiul Habsburgic, pe c\u00e2nd Transilvania s-a transformat \u00een principat autonom. Timp de 150 de ani, p\u00e2n\u0103 la sf\u00e2r\u015fitul secolului al XVII-lea, Ungaria a fost pur \u015fi simplu desfiin\u0163at\u0103! Asta \u00een timp ce celalte principate rom\u00e2ne (Moldova, \u0162ara Rom\u00e2neasc\u0103) \u015fi-au p\u0103strat autonomia extins\u0103 fa\u0163\u0103 de turci, nefiind transformate \u00een pa\u015fal\u00e2curi. \u00cen plus, dup\u0103 ce a sc\u0103pat de sub controlul turcesc, Ungaria a fost o anex\u0103 a Imperiului Habrburgic, abia din 1867 form\u00e2nd Imperiul Austro-Ungar, \u00eempreun\u0103 cu Austria, p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een 1918, c\u00e2nd a devenit stat independent. A\u015fadar, din 1526 p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een 1918, Ungaria nu a existat ca entitate distinct\u0103, pe c\u00e2nd Rom\u00e2nia era deja na\u0163iune modern\u0103 \u015fi de sine st\u0103t\u0103toare \u00eenc\u0103 din 1859.<\/p>\n<p>Acesta este adev\u0103rul istoric, fie c\u0103-i place sau nu ministrului ungar.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Am ajuns anul acesta la Budapesta (Ungaria), pe care am vizitat-o dintr-un cap\u0103t \u00een altul. Ora\u015ful este mult mai frumos dec\u00e2t Bucure\u015ftiul, capitala noastr\u0103, \u00eens\u0103 cel mai mult te impresioneaz\u0103 nivelul ridicat de civiliza\u0163ie, \u015fi, oric\u00e2t de na\u0163ionalist a\u015f fi, &#8230; <\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more-container\"><a title=\"Ministrul de externe ungar: &#8222;Noi suntem un stat vechi de peste 1.000 de ani, care de-a lungul istoriei sale a trebuit s\u0103 se apere nu doar pe sine, ci \u015fi Europa&#8221;! Ce spui tu, mon\u015fer!? Iar noi, rom\u00e2nii, avem 2.000 de ani de vechime!\" class=\"read-more button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/ministrul-de-externe-ungar-noi-suntem-un-stat-vechi-de-peste-1-000-de-ani-care-de-a-lungul-istoriei-sale-a-trebuit-sa-se-apere-nu-doar-pe-sine-ci-si-europa-ce-spui-tu-monser-iar-noi-romani\/#more-40494\" aria-label=\"Cite\u0219te mai multe despre Ministrul de externe ungar: &#8222;Noi suntem un stat vechi de peste 1.000 de ani, care de-a lungul istoriei sale a trebuit s\u0103 se apere nu doar pe sine, ci \u015fi Europa&#8221;! Ce spui tu, mon\u015fer!? 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