{"id":36705,"date":"2014-12-01T00:26:29","date_gmt":"2014-11-30T22:26:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/?p=36705"},"modified":"2017-12-01T08:38:27","modified_gmt":"2017-12-01T06:38:27","slug":"transilvania-era-deja-locuita-de-daci-si-traci-in-momentul-in-care-ungurii-au-ocupat-o-acum-1-000-de-ani-ce-drept-istoric-mai-au-atunci-maghiarii-asupra-ei","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/transilvania-era-deja-locuita-de-daci-si-traci-in-momentul-in-care-ungurii-au-ocupat-o-acum-1-000-de-ani-ce-drept-istoric-mai-au-atunci-maghiarii-asupra-ei\/","title":{"rendered":"Transilvania era deja locuit\u0103 de &#8222;daci \u015fi traci&#8221;, \u00een momentul \u00een care ungurii au ocupat-o acum 1.000 de ani! Ce &#8222;drept istoric&#8221; mai au atunci maghiarii asupra ei?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-36706\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/Transilvania-2.jpg\" alt=\"Transilvania 2\" width=\"334\" height=\"204\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/Transilvania-2.jpg 334w, https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/Transilvania-2-300x183.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 334px) 100vw, 334px\" \/>Pentru c\u0103 ast\u0103zi, 1 decembrie, este ziua na\u0163ional\u0103 a Rom\u00e2niei am s\u0103 reiau un subiect care a fost dezb\u0103tut extrem de mult de sute de istorici rom\u00e2ni \u015fi maghiari: a cui a fost ini\u0163ial provincia Transilvaniei? A rom\u00e2nilor, ca mo\u015ftenitori ai dacilor, sau a ungurilor? Teoria sus\u0163inut\u0103 de istoricii maghiari este binecunoscut\u0103: atunci c\u00e2nd hunii din C\u00e2mpia Panonic\u0103 au ajuns \u00een Transilvania, acest teritoriu ar fi fost unul nepopulat, &#8222;virgin&#8221;, \u015fi atunci ungurii s-au instalat aici. Rom\u00e2nii ar fi venit ceva mai t\u00e2rziu, dup\u0103 vreo 2-3 secole, venind din Albania (sic!). Istoricii unguri se mai \u00eentreab\u0103 de ce rom\u00e2nii, care pretind c\u0103 exist\u0103 ca na\u0163iune pe teritoriul actual al Rom\u00e2niei \u00eenc\u0103 din secolul al 3-lea, nu au produs niciodat\u0103 o revolu\u0163ie, un r\u0103zboi de independen\u0163\u0103 sau orice alt\u0103 \u00eencercare pentru a-\u015fi crea propria \u0163ar\u0103, \u015fi au trebuit s\u0103 a\u015ftepte 16 secole, p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een 1859, ca s\u0103 se uneasc\u0103, \u015fi atunci acest lucru s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat datorit\u0103 conjucturilor interna\u0163ionale favorabile.<\/p>\n<p>Sincer, trebuie s\u0103 recunosc c\u0103 nu sunt specialist \u00een acest domeniu, dar p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een prezent am \u00eencercat s\u0103 m\u0103 documentez c\u00e2t mai bine \u015fi, f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 intru \u00een prea multe detalii, am s\u0103 \u00eencerc s\u0103 prezint c\u00e2teva concluzii \u015fi fapt clare:<\/p>\n<p>* E total fals c\u0103 Transilvania nu ar fi fost locuit\u0103 \u00een momentul c\u00e2nd conduc\u0103torii huni au ajuns aici. \u00cens\u0103, totodat\u0103, e adev\u0103rat c\u0103 nu tot teritoriul transilvanian era locuit, \u015fi de aceea, regii unguri au adus pentru colonizare popula\u0163ie german\u0103 (sa\u015fi) \u015fi hunic\u0103 (secui), \u00een partea de sud \u015fi de est al Transilvaniei. Dar, centrul, vestul \u015fi nordul provinciei era deja locuit de localnici. O spune chiar o cronic\u0103 ungar\u0103, <em>&#8222;Gesta Hungarorum&#8221;<\/em>, scris\u0103 \u00een limba latin\u0103 \u00een jurul anului 1200, care arat\u0103 c\u0103, atunci c\u00e2nd ungurii au ajuns Transilvania, au \u00eent\u00e2lnit o popula\u0163ie local\u0103, pe care a numit-o &#8222;blachi&#8221; sau &#8222;blasi&#8221;, ce seam\u0103n\u0103 al naibii de mult cu &#8222;vlach&#8221; sau &#8222;vlahi&#8221;, adic\u0103 denumirea str\u0103veche a rom\u00e2nilor \u00een Evul Mediu. Aici, ungurii \u00eent\u00e2lnesc chiar un conduc\u0103tor local al vlahilor, celebrul Gelu. Citim din acela\u015fi <em>&#8222;Gesta Hungarorum&#8221;: &#8222;ubi Gelou quidam Blacus dominium tenebat&#8221;.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>* Dac\u0103 Transilvania ar fi fost goal\u0103 atunci c\u00e2nd ungurii au p\u0103truns \u00een ea, de ce regii unguri au mai acordat titluri \u015fi p\u0103m\u00e2nturi lorzilor locali? Totu\u015fi, conform tuturor surselor istorice de p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een prezent, trebuie s\u0103 recunoa\u015ftem c\u0103 Transilvania nu a fost cucerit\u0103 de c\u0103tre unguri, ci pur \u015fi simplu colonizat\u0103 cu u\u015furin\u0163\u0103, \u00eentruc\u00e2t triburile vlahe locale nu au opus rezisten\u0163\u0103 ungurilor dec\u00e2t cu excep\u0163ia lui Gelu.<\/p>\n<p>* \u00centr-un articol halucinant publicat acum aproape 2 secole \u00een <em>&#8222;The North American Review&#8221;<\/em> (o revist\u0103 din SUA, num\u0103rul 61 din octombrie 1828) \u015fi intitulat <em>&#8222;Istoria geografic\u0103 \u015fi politic\u0103 a Valahiei din vechime \u015fi p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een 1774&#8221;<\/em>, scris\u0103 de un oarecare Brethren Tunusli, se afirm\u0103 nici mai mult nici mai pu\u0163in c\u0103 rom\u00e2nii de ast\u0103zi ar fi urma\u015fii \u0163iganilor! A\u015fadar, popula\u0163ia r\u0103mas\u0103 dup\u0103 retragerea roman\u0103 \u015fi care ar fi locuit \u00een \u0162ara Rom\u00e2neasc\u0103, Transilvania \u015fi Moldova, ar fi fost constituit\u0103 din \u0163igani! Autorul probabil c\u0103 era beat c\u00e2nd a f\u0103cut aceast\u0103 afirma\u0163ie, uit\u00e2nd c\u0103 \u015fi din punct de vedere al limbii \u015fi al ADN-ului, \u0163iganii provin din India.<\/p>\n<p>* \u00cenc\u0103 un lucru: exist\u0103 \u00eenc\u0103 istorici str\u0103ini care sunt foarte sceptici c\u0103 ar exista vreo leg\u0103tur\u0103 \u00eentre popula\u0163ia Daciei \u015fi popula\u0163ia &#8222;teritoriilor vlahe&#8221; din Evul Mediu. A\u015fa cum spuneam \u015fi \u00een alte articole scrise pe site, ideea originii neamului rom\u00e2nesc din daci nu a ap\u0103rut brusc \u00een secolul al XIX-lea, ci este mult mai veche. De exemplu, pe un morm\u00e2nt al Smarandei Ghica, aflat \u00een Biserica Sf.Gheorghe din Ia\u015fi, scrie: <em>\u201eAci zace sub p\u0103m\u00e2nt dup\u0103 moartea ei \/ Prea str\u0103lucita Domni\u0163\u0103, nobila Smaranda \/ Fiic\u0103 a piosului Egemon al \u00eentregei Dacie \/ Domnul Grigorie Ghica, frunta\u015ful \/ Celor din Bizan\u0163, at\u00e2t pentru str\u0103lucirea neamului \/ c\u00e2t \u015fi pentru piositate \/ \u00cen anul 1738, Ianuar 22\u201d<\/em><em><em>.<\/em><\/em> Smaranda Ghica era fiica domnitorului Grigore Ghica, care era v\u0103zut ca \u201cegemon\u201d, adic\u0103 \u201cconduc\u0103tor\u201d al \u00eentregii Dacii. O alt\u0103 piatr\u0103 de morm\u00e2nt din secolul al XVIII-lea din M\u0103n\u0103stirea Golia din Ia\u015fi, apar\u0163in\u00e2nd lui Sultana Racovi\u0163\u0103 (so\u0163ia domnitorului Mihail Racovi\u0163\u0103), pe care st\u0103 scris:\u00a0 \u201c<em>Nici p\u0103m\u00e2ntean\u0103, nici din Dacia nu sunt, amice \/ Byza mea, Byza, produc\u0103toare de b\u0103rba\u0163i glorio\u015fi, \u00eemi este patria, \/ M\u2019a n\u0103scut Ghiorghios so\u0163iei sale \u015fi mama Eufrosina, \/ Numele meu este Sultana cea cu via\u0163a scurt\u0103 \/ \u015ei eram so\u0163ia lui Mihail Racovi\u0163\u0103, \/ A Domnitorului \u00een\u0163elept al Dacilor \u015fi Misienilor. \/ Vai! vai! n\u2019am murit \u00een patria mea \/ Ci soarta m\u2019a r\u0103pit pe p\u0103m\u00e2ntul Misienilor.\u201d<\/em> Termenul de \u201cmisieni\u201d \u00eenseamn\u0103 \u201curma\u015fi ai tracilor\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>* Interesant\u0103 este opinia istoricului \u015fi arheologului Kurt Horedt, care \u00eencearc\u0103 o anumit\u0103 &#8222;conciliere&#8221; \u00eentre cele dou\u0103 pozi\u0163ii opuse ale istoricilor unguri \u015fi rom\u00e2ni. Astfel, potrivit domniei sale, retr\u0103g\u00e2ndu-se din Dacia, romanii nu \u015fi-au retras \u015fi \u00eentreaga popula\u0163ie. \u00cen fostele provincii romane din Dacia, printre care \u015fi \u00een Trasilvania, au mai r\u0103mas o popula\u0163ie dacic\u0103 romananizat\u0103, care s-a combinat cu &#8222;tracii romaniza\u0163i&#8221;, o popula\u0163ie de p\u0103stori migratori din secolul al 9-lea, cu origine \u00een peninsula Balcanic\u0103. Prezen\u0163a acestora \u00een Transilvania este sigur\u0103 \u00een secolul al 10-lea, dar o migra\u0163ie mai t\u00e2rzie din secolul al XIII-lea (a\u015fa cum sus\u0163in istoricii unguri) nu este posibil\u0103. Poate c\u0103 aceast\u0103 opinie se apropie cel mai mult de adev\u0103r \u015fi poate c\u0103 de asta spunea Mihail Racovi\u0163\u0103 c\u0103 este &#8222;domnitor al dacilor \u015fi tracilor&#8221;&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pentru c\u0103 ast\u0103zi, 1 decembrie, este ziua na\u0163ional\u0103 a Rom\u00e2niei am s\u0103 reiau un subiect care a fost dezb\u0103tut extrem de mult de sute de istorici rom\u00e2ni \u015fi maghiari: a cui a fost ini\u0163ial provincia Transilvaniei? A rom\u00e2nilor, ca mo\u015ftenitori &#8230; <\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more-container\"><a title=\"Transilvania era deja locuit\u0103 de &#8222;daci \u015fi traci&#8221;, \u00een momentul \u00een care ungurii au ocupat-o acum 1.000 de ani! 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