{"id":33596,"date":"2014-04-07T12:27:07","date_gmt":"2014-04-07T09:27:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/?p=33596"},"modified":"2016-09-08T21:29:17","modified_gmt":"2016-09-08T18:29:17","slug":"de-ce-in-unele-slujbe-religioase-se-spune-ca-lucifer-este-de-neinvins-si-ca-el-este-tatal-lui-iisus-hristos-lucifer-e-satana-sau-cel-plin-de-lumina","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/de-ce-in-unele-slujbe-religioase-se-spune-ca-lucifer-este-de-neinvins-si-ca-el-este-tatal-lui-iisus-hristos-lucifer-e-satana-sau-cel-plin-de-lumina\/","title":{"rendered":"De ce \u00een unele slujbe religioase se spune c\u0103 &#8222;Lucifer este de ne\u00eenvins \u015fi c\u0103 el este tat\u0103l lui Iisus Hristos&#8221;!? &#8222;Lucifer&#8221; e Satana sau &#8222;Cel plin de lumin\u0103&#8221;?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/papa-Lucifer.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-33598\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/papa-Lucifer.jpg\" alt=\"papa Lucifer\" width=\"327\" height=\"237\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/papa-Lucifer.jpg 327w, https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/papa-Lucifer-300x217.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 327px) 100vw, 327px\" \/><\/a>\u00centr-un videoclip postat pe YouTube \u00een februarie 2014, un utilizator ne prezint\u0103 un fragment dintr-o slujb\u0103 religioas\u0103 catolic\u0103 \u00een care s-ar rosti versuri pentru&#8230;. adorarea lui Lucifer! Astfel, \u00een limba latin\u0103, rug\u0103ciunea catolic\u0103 ar suna altfel: <em>&#8222;Flammas eius Lucifer matutinus inveniat: ille, inquam, Lucifer, qui nescit occasum. Christus Filius tuus, qui, regressus ab inferis, humano generi serenus illuxit, et vivit et regnat in s\u00e6cula s\u00e6culorum&#8221;.<\/em> Ei, aici vine dificultatea cum traducem aceast\u0103 fraz\u0103 din limba latin\u0103. Astfel, cel care a pus videoclipul ar traduce astfel: <em>&#8222;Lucifer cel arz\u0103tor g\u0103se\u015fte omenirea. \u015ei spun: O, Lucifer, care nu va fi \u00eenvins niciodat\u0103, Hristosul, Fiul T\u0103u, care a \u00eenviat din mor\u0163i, a oferit lumina p\u0103cii rasei umane, \u015fi va tr\u0103i \u015fi va domni \u00een veacul vecilor.&#8221; <\/em>Din traducerea aceasta, ar reie\u015fi c\u0103 Hristos ar fi fost considerat drept fiul lui Lucifer. Foarte ciudat, din moment ce, conform cuno\u015ftin\u0163elor eretice gnostice, Lucifer ar fi fost fratele lui Iisus Hristos \u015fi nicidecum tat\u0103l. Ar fi pentru prima dat\u0103 c\u00e2nd aud a\u015fa ceva.<\/p>\n<p>Un comentator al acestui videoclip \u00eei atrage aten\u0163ia autorului c\u0103 traducerea e gre\u015fit\u0103 \u015fi c\u0103 &#8222;Lucifer&#8221; \u00een limba latin\u0103 ini\u0163ial\u0103 \u00eenseamn\u0103 &#8222;aduc\u0103tor de lumin\u0103, purt\u0103tor de lumin\u0103&#8221;, neav\u00e2nd vreo semnifica\u0163ie demonic\u0103. Astfel, fraza de mai sus s-ar traduce:<em> &#8222;O, Cel plin de Lumin\u0103 g\u0103se\u015fte omenirea. \u015ei spun: O, Purt\u0103torule de Lumin\u0103, care nu vei fi \u00eenvins niciodat\u0103, Hristosul, Fiul T\u0103u, care a \u00eenviat din mor\u0163i, a oferit lumina p\u0103cii rasei umane, \u015fi va tr\u0103i \u015fi va domni \u00een veacul vecilor.&#8221; <\/em>A\u015fadar, din aceast\u0103 traducere rezult\u0103 clar c\u0103 &#8222;Cel plin de Lumin\u0103&#8221;, &#8222;Purt\u0103torul de Lumin\u0103&#8221; este Dumnezeu, iar Iisus este Fiul S\u0103u.<\/p>\n<p>Oricum, poate c\u0103 acest &#8222;Lucifer&#8221; a r\u0103mas poate cel mai controversat cuv\u00e2nt din \u00eentreaga Biblie. S\u0103 nu uit\u0103m c\u0103 \u00een Isaia, capitolul 14, se vorbe\u015fte despre Satana (Lucifer):<br \/>\n&#8222;<em>12. Cum ai c\u0103zut tu din ceruri, stea str\u0103lucitoare, fecior al dimine\u0163ii! Cum ai fost aruncat la p\u0103m\u00e2nt, tu, biruitor de neamuri!<\/em><br \/>\n<em> 13. Tu care ziceai \u00een cugetul t\u0103u: &#8222;Ridica-m\u0103-voi \u00een ceruri \u015fi mai presus de stelele Dumnezeului celui puternic voi a\u015feza jil\u0163ul meu! \u00cen muntele cel sf\u00e2nt voi pune s\u0103la\u015ful meu, \u00een fundurile laturei celei de miaz\u0103noapte.<\/em><br \/>\n<em> 14. Sui-m\u0103-voi deasupra norilor \u015fi asemenea cu Cel Prea\u00eenalt voi fi&#8221;.<\/em><br \/>\n<em> 15. \u015ei acum, tu te pogori \u00een iad, \u00een cele mai de jos ale ad\u00e2ncului!&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>M-am dus pu\u0163in pe <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sacred-texts.com\/bib\/\/vul\/isa014.htm#012\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Biblia \u00een limba latin\u0103<\/strong><\/a> (acela\u015fi fragment) \u015fi ia privi\u0163i cum apare \u00een limba latin\u0103 versetul 12: <em>&#8222;Quomodo cecidisti de c\u00e6lo, Lucifer, qui mane oriebaris? Corruisti in terram, qui vulnerabas gentes?&#8221; <\/em>A\u015fadar, apare acela\u015fi &#8222;Lucifer&#8221;, tradus \u00een limba rom\u00e2n\u0103 ca &#8222;stea str\u0103lucitoare&#8221;, numai c\u0103, de data aceasta, &#8222;Lucifer&#8221; nu mai are sensul de &#8222;Cel plin de lumin\u0103&#8221;, ci de fiin\u0163\u0103 demonic\u0103 care \u00ee\u015fi are s\u0103la\u015ful \u00een ad\u00e2ncul iadului. A\u015fadar, autorul videoclipului are \u00eentr-un fel dreptate c\u0103 &#8222;Lucifer&#8221; din slujba religioas\u0103 catolic\u0103 ar putea fi \u00een\u0163eles \u015fi ca Satana&#8230; Voi ce crede\u0163i? Cine are dreptate?<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen trecut, papa Benedict dar \u015fi actualul pap\u0103 Francisc au fost acuza\u0163i c\u0103 au folosit acela\u015fi fragment \u00een slujbele religioase, cre\u00e2nd astfel confuzie \u015fi uimire general\u0103 printre credincio\u015fi.<\/p>\n<p><object width=\"540\" height=\"305\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/YvVpUHQjHpk?version=3&amp;hl=ro_RO\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><embed width=\"540\" height=\"305\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/YvVpUHQjHpk?version=3&amp;hl=ro_RO\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" \/><\/object><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00centr-un videoclip postat pe YouTube \u00een februarie 2014, un utilizator ne prezint\u0103 un fragment dintr-o slujb\u0103 religioas\u0103 catolic\u0103 \u00een care s-ar rosti versuri pentru&#8230;. adorarea lui Lucifer! 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