{"id":25147,"date":"2012-09-28T15:13:47","date_gmt":"2012-09-28T13:13:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lovendal.net\/wp52\/?p=25147"},"modified":"2016-09-30T19:54:07","modified_gmt":"2016-09-30T16:54:07","slug":"timpul-nu-exista-el-fiind-creat-de-creierul-nostru-ca-raspuns-la-gravitatia-pamantului","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/timpul-nu-exista-el-fiind-creat-de-creierul-nostru-ca-raspuns-la-gravitatia-pamantului\/","title":{"rendered":"Timpul nu exist\u0103, el fiind creat de creierul nostru, ca r\u0103spuns la gravita\u0163ia P\u0103m\u00e2ntului"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/iluzia-timpului.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-25155\" title=\"iluzia timpului\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/iluzia-timpului.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"307\" height=\"230\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/iluzia-timpului.jpeg 307w, https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/iluzia-timpului-200x150.jpeg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 307px) 100vw, 307px\" \/><\/a>V\u0103 invit \u00een acest articol s\u0103 urm\u0103ri\u0163i o conferin\u0163\u0103 de 22 de minute a Dr. Wubbo J. Ockels, primul astronaut olandez, prin care acesta ne explic\u0103 c\u00e2t de iluzoriu este timpul, aceasta fiind crea\u0163ia creierului nostru, care s-a adaptat astfel gravita\u0163iei. \u015ei, dac\u0103 am putea trece dincolo de timp, c\u00e2te lucruri minunate ni s-ar putea \u00eent\u00e2mpla. Am f\u0103cut un rezumat aproape fidel al acestei conferin\u0163e&#8230;ideile sale sunt minunate&#8230;\u015fi poate c\u0103 ar trebui s\u0103 judec\u0103m lucrurile \u015fi din aceast\u0103 perspectiv\u0103.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Timpul e o crea\u0163ie a vie\u0163ii, ca r\u0103spuns la gravita\u0163ie<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Crede\u0163i c\u0103 poate sunte\u0163i fiin\u0163e cosmice. Crede\u0163i c\u0103, dac\u0103 v\u0103 pute\u0163i uita la cer, la Univers, atunci \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 a\u0163i \u00een\u0163eles Universul. Dar s\u0103 \u015fti\u0163i c\u0103 nu sunte\u0163i deloc fiin\u0163e cosmice; sunte\u0163i doar p\u0103m\u00e2nteni. \u015ei asta datorit\u0103 unei ipoteze: timpul e o crea\u0163ie a vie\u0163ii, ca r\u0103spuns la gravita\u0163ie. Dar oare ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 acest lucru? Poate ar trebui s\u0103 ne amintim de un citat celebru al lui Descartes din secolul al XVII-lea: <em>&#8222;G\u00e2ndesc, deci exist&#8221;<\/em>. \u00cencerca\u0163i \u015fi un alt citat: <em>&#8222;Tr\u0103iesc, deci timpul trece.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Oamenii sunt cronocentrici<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Afirma\u0163ia &#8222;timpul e o crea\u0163ie a vie\u0163ii, ca r\u0103spuns la gravita\u0163ie&#8221; are o implica\u0163ie imediat\u0103, \u015fi anume c\u0103 timpul NOSTRU este creat de via\u0163a NOASTR\u0102, ca r\u0103spuns la gravita\u0163ia NOASTR\u0102. Aceasta \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 timpul devine &#8222;AL NOSTRU&#8221; \u015fi devine o referin\u0163\u0103 oriunde am privi. Noi suntem &#8222;cronocentrici&#8221;. La fel cum egiptenii credeau c\u0103 P\u0103m\u00e2ntul este centrul tuturor, la fel \u015fi noi credem c\u0103 timpul nostru se afl\u0103 \u00een centrul tuturor. Noi chiar spunem c\u0103 \u00een urm\u0103 cu 13,6 miliarde de ani \u00een urm\u0103 Universul s-a n\u0103scut. \u015ei am stabilit acest lucru \u00een raport cu existen\u0163a noastr\u0103, \u00een raport cu &#8222;ACUM&#8221;-ul nostru. Dar crede\u0163i c\u0103 Universului \u00eei pas\u0103 de asta?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Extratere\u015ftrii au o via\u0163\u0103 diferit\u0103, \u015fi de aceea nu \u00eei putem privi<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Cu o gravita\u0163ie diferit\u0103, o via\u0163\u0103 diferit\u0103 poate genera un timp diferit. Iar acest lucru, i-ar face pe acei extratere\u015ftri s\u0103 se uite foarte diferit la Cosmos. \u00centruc\u00e2t noi ne uit\u0103m la Cosmos doar cu timpul nostru, putem vedea doar o mic\u0103 parte din Univers. La fel, \u015fi extratere\u015ftrii, pot vedea o alt\u0103 mic\u0103 parte din Univers. \u015ei, de aceea, noi nu putem vedea.<\/p>\n<p>N-ar fi oare minunat s\u0103 sc\u0103p\u0103m de acest cronocentrism, la fel cum oamenii din Evul Mediu au sc\u0103pat de diocentrism, put\u00e2nd vedea mai mult din acest Univers? Desigur c\u0103 putem.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ce senza\u0163ii simte un astronaut c\u00e2nd nu are gravita\u0163ia?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Dr. Wubbo J. Ockels a participat \u00een 1985 la o misiune a spa\u0163ial\u0103 a Agen\u0163iei Spa\u0163iale European\u0103, devenind astfel primul astronaut olandez. El descrie senza\u0163ia avut\u0103 c\u00e2nd a ajuns \u00een spa\u0163iu: <em>&#8222;Eu m\u0103 aflam acolo, f\u0103r\u0103 atmosfer\u0103, la -200 grade Celsius, f\u0103r\u0103 via\u0163\u0103, f\u0103r\u0103 istorie. \u015ei uit\u00e2ndu-m\u0103 jos pe P\u0103m\u00e2nt, mi-am dat seama c\u0103 tot ce e valoros, toat\u0103 evolu\u0163ia vie\u0163ii a avut loc acolo jos (&#8230;) Atunci c\u00e2nd te afli \u00een spa\u0163iu, nu sim\u0163i acest P\u0103m\u00e2nt, nu-\u0163i sim\u0163i greutatea (&#8230;) Concluzia zborului meu spa\u0163ial a fost urm\u0103toarea: nu spa\u0163iul este unic, ci P\u0103m\u00e2ntul.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Desigur c\u0103 via\u0163a dezvoltat\u0103 pe P\u0103m\u00e2nt a fost modelat\u0103 chiar de P\u0103m\u00e2nt.Aici ne-am dezvoltat, aici umanitatea a evoluat. Iar \u00een creierul nostru ne-am creat programe pentru a analiza lucrurile ce le vedem \u00een jurul nostru. Dar unele din aceste programe nu func\u0163ioneaz\u0103 \u00een spa\u0163iu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cum apare, fiziologic, timpul \u00een creierul unui om<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Dar cum apare timpul la om? Omul, prin urechi, percepe accelera\u0163ia. \u00cen spatele urechilor, avem ceva care se nume\u015fte &#8222;otolit&#8221;; este un corpuscul calcaros, cu ajutorul c\u0103ruia sim\u0163im accelera\u0163ia, atunci c\u00e2nd ne afl\u0103m \u00eentr-un vehicul \u00een mi\u015fcare (ma\u015fin\u0103, tren sau avion). Einstein a spus c\u0103 &#8222;gravita\u0163ia ne accelereaz\u0103&#8221;. Dar, \u00een acela\u015fi timp, ochii no\u015ftri v\u0103d c\u0103 nu ne mi\u015fc\u0103m. Ochii sunt asemenea lui Newton (&#8222;gravita\u0163ia ne atrage&#8221;), \u015fi spun: &#8222;Nu m\u0103 mi\u015fc, stau nemi\u015fcat&#8221;. Sau &#8222;m\u0103 deplasez cu o mi\u015fcare uniform\u0103&#8221;, c\u0103ci, dac\u0103 te afli \u00eentr-un tren \u015fi nu prive\u015fti afar\u0103, nu-\u0163i dai seama de diferen\u0163a \u00eentre viteza constant\u0103 \u015fi statul pe loc. A\u015fadar, la nivelul urechilor, avem accelera\u0163ia (adic\u0103 km\/h\/unitate de timp), iar la nivelul ochilor avem km\/h. Sistemul nervos central trebuie s\u0103 integreze aceste senza\u0163ii \u015fi astfel e nevoit s\u0103 creeze timpul. Pentru c\u0103 diferen\u0163a dintre cele (km\/h\/unitate de timp-km\/h) formeaz\u0103 timpul. A\u015fadar, sistemul nervos central integreaz\u0103 impulsurile de la otoli\u0163i \u015fi ochi \u015fi creeaz\u0103 timpul. \u015ei, desigur, e TIMPUL NOSTRU; noi \u00eel cre\u0103m. Pentru c\u0103 to\u0163i oamenii percep acela\u015fi timp, am creat construc\u0163ii ca ceasul, dar totu\u015fi este doar timpul nostru.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Programul &#8222;timp&#8221; creat de creier<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Programul acesta (care creeaz\u0103 consensul c\u0103 suntem accelera\u0163i, \u00een timp ce st\u0103m nemi\u015fca\u0163i) e aproape perfect. Nu observa\u0163i c\u0103 v\u0103 mi\u015fca\u0163i, nu observa\u0163i c\u0103 sunte\u0163i accelera\u0163i&#8230;sta\u0163i foarte confortabil. Dar acest program mai are unele sc\u0103p\u0103ri, ca de exemplu, Soarele la apusul s\u0103u \u00eel percepe\u0163i ca fiind mult mai mare&#8230;\u00eens\u0103 este doar o iluzie! Asta arat\u0103 c\u0103 programul creierului nostru nu este chiar perfect, dar e destul de bun pentru a p\u0103c\u0103li oamenii no\u015ftri de \u015ftin\u0163\u0103. Dar to\u0163i filozofii, to\u0163i g\u00e2nditorii care vor s\u0103 treac\u0103 dincolo de aparen\u0163\u0103, \u00ee\u015fi dau seama c\u0103 nu po\u0163i fi p\u0103c\u0103li\u0163i de creierul lor.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cum de viteza luminii e \u00eentotdeauna aceea\u015fi?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>S\u0103 facem urm\u0103torul experiment&#8230;m\u0103surarea vitezei luminii. \u00cen urm\u0103 cu circa 100 de ani, am f\u0103cut o descoperire important\u0103: viteza luminii e \u00eentotdeauna la fel. V\u0103 da\u0163i seama? Dac\u0103 v\u0103 afla\u0163i pe P\u0103m\u00e2nt \u015fi v\u0103 ve\u0163i uita la o stea&#8230;\u015fi ve\u0163i m\u0103sura viteza luminii, ve\u0163i descoperi c\u0103 ea este de 300.000 km\/s. Dar, \u015fi dac\u0103 ve\u0163i merge cu avionul \u015fi v\u0103 ve\u0163i uita la acea stea, viteza luminii r\u0103m\u00e2ne la fel: 300.000 km\/s. La prima vedere pare ireal&#8230;dar totu\u015fi, e adev\u0103rat, c\u0103ci prin experimentele fizice ob\u0163inem acela\u015fi rezultat. Iar Einstein a demonstrat acest lucru&#8230;\u00een 1905, el a ar\u0103tat c\u0103 e=mc^2, baza pentru energia nuclear\u0103, doar pentru c\u0103 s-a descoperit c\u0103 viteza luminii este constant\u0103.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Viteza luminii de 300.000 km\/s e doar viteza noastr\u0103!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A\u015fadar, s\u0103 facem un experiment. S\u0103 \u00eendrept\u0103m o arm\u0103 cu laser spre Lun\u0103. De ce? Pentru c\u0103 Luna se afl\u0103 la o distan\u0163\u0103 convenabil\u0103, la 380.000 de kilometri fa\u0163\u0103 de P\u0103m\u00e2nt; lumina are viteza de 300.000 km\/s, a\u015fa c\u0103 ia ceva mai mult de 1 secund\u0103 pentru ca lumina s\u0103 ajung\u0103 pe Lun\u0103. Acolo, cei de la Apollo 11 au instalat un refractor de laser. Dac\u0103 trimitem raza laser c\u0103tre Lun\u0103, c\u0103tre refractor, acesta o reflect\u0103 \u00eenapoi spre noi, a\u015fa c\u0103 avem \u00een total 2,5 secunde. A\u015fadar, viteza luminii (c) o putem m\u0103sura ca raportul dintre: 2 * 380.000 km (distan\u0163a dintre P\u0103m\u00e2nt \u015fi Lun\u0103 \u015fi \u00eenapoi) \u015fi 2,5 secunde (c\u00e2t \u00eei trebuie luminii s\u0103 se \u00eentoarc\u0103 spre P\u0103m\u00e2nt). De\u015fi distan\u0163a (2 * 380.000 km) este una universal\u0103 sau cosmic\u0103, timpul (de 2,5 secunde) este al nostru. \u015ei astfel, am demonstrat c\u0103 VITEZA LUMINII este A NOASTR\u0102. E viteza noastr\u0103 a luminii, \u00eentruc\u00e2t timpul e creat de via\u0163a noastr\u0103, ca r\u0103spuns la gravita\u0163ia care ne afecteaz\u0103.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Via\u0163a creeaz\u0103 timpul \u015fi timpul creeaz\u0103 via\u0163a<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ca fizician nu pot vorbi a\u015fa, dar ca filozof, da. Hilderberg a spus odat\u0103 c\u0103 via\u0163a \u015fi timpul se determin\u0103 reciproc unul pe cel\u0103lalt&#8230;cu alte cuvinte via\u0163a creeaz\u0103 timpul \u015fi timpul creeaz\u0103 via\u0163a. Pentru un filozof nu e ceva nou \u00een a spune c\u0103 noi cre\u0103m timpul. Dar, fiziologic nu e deloc ciudat c\u0103 noi trebuie s\u0103 cre\u0103m timpul \u00een creierul nostru&#8230;prin experimente putem ar\u0103ta c\u0103 noi suntem creatorii timpului. \u00cens\u0103 trebuie s\u0103-i convingem de acest lucru \u015fi pe fizicieni, \u00eentruc\u00e2t ace\u015ftia \u00eenc\u0103 cred c\u0103 timpul e universal. Dac\u0103 noi murim, timpul \u00eenc\u0103 s-ar afla acolo.<\/p>\n<p>Ce fel de concluzii putem trage? \u00cen primul r\u00e2nd, c\u0103 viteza luminii e a noastr\u0103. \u00cen urm\u0103 cu 100 de ani, oamenii erau at\u00e2t de surprin\u015fi s\u0103 constate c\u0103 experimentele ar\u0103tau \u00eentotdeauna aceea\u015fi vitez\u0103 a luminii. Dar e normal s\u0103 fie a\u015fa, pentru c\u0103 e viteza noastr\u0103&#8230; Am potrivit ceasurile la fel, astfel \u00eenc\u00e2t nu se putea \u00eenregistra dec\u00e2t aceea\u015fi valoare.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Noi vedem doar 2% din Univers<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00cen al doilea r\u00e2nd, concluzia va fi dezam\u0103gitoare pentru astrofizicieni: deoarece vedem doar o mic\u0103 parte din Univers, limita vizibilit\u0103\u0163ii noastre o constituie de fapt sf\u00e2r\u015fitul Universului pe care-l vedem, care e numit &#8222;limita Universului&#8221; sau Big-Bang; dar acest lucru e o iluzie. Marea parte a Universului pe care nu-l observ\u0103m \u00eel numim &#8222;energia \u00eentunecat\u0103&#8221; \u015fi &#8222;materia \u00eentunecat\u0103&#8221;; aceasta e de 95% ast\u0103zi, dar peste c\u00e2\u0163iva ani vom ajunge la concluzia c\u0103 reprezint\u0103 98% din Univers.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen al treilea r\u00e2nd, pentru a unifica formulele fizice ale gravita\u0163iei cu cele din fizica cuantic\u0103, trebuie s\u0103 \u00eenlocuim timpul cu gravita\u0163ia, \u00eentruc\u00e2t timpul nu este independent de gravita\u0163ie, ci este o func\u0163ie a ei, \u015fi asta \u00eentruc\u00e2t timpul este creat de noi, care, la r\u00e2ndul nostru, suntem influen\u0163a\u0163i de gravita\u0163ie.<\/p>\n<p><strong>S\u0103 ie\u015fim din acest cronocentrism!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Dar cea mai important\u0103 concluzie ar fi aceea c\u0103, dac\u0103 am ie\u015fi din acest cronocentrism, atunci am putea observa via\u0163a extraterestr\u0103. S\u0103 spunem acest lucru \u00eentr-un context al istoriei:<br \/>\n* \u00een urm\u0103 cu peste 2.000 de ani, credeam c\u0103 P\u0103m\u00e2ntul se afl\u0103 \u00een centrul Universului; aveam o viziune geocentric\u0103.<br \/>\n* am \u00eenv\u0103\u0163at dup\u0103 Evul Mediu (\u00een 1543), c\u0103 nu P\u0103m\u00e2ntul se afl\u0103 \u00een centrul Universului, ci Soarele; astfel, am c\u0103p\u0103tat o viziune heliocentric\u0103.<br \/>\n* \u00een jurul anului 1900, am \u00eenv\u0103\u0163at c\u0103 viteza luminii e constant\u0103, a\u015fa c\u0103 am pus timpul nostru \u00een centru.<\/p>\n<p>De aceea, poate ar fi timpul s\u0103 ne lep\u0103d\u0103m de cronocentrism, s\u0103 nu mai ne mai tr\u0103im via\u0163a \u00een func\u0163ie de timp \u015fi s\u0103 afl\u0103m ce este dincolo. Mii de oameni de \u015ftiin\u0163\u0103 ar putea lucra la noi tehnologii, la noi calculatoare, la noi telescoape, \u00een care s\u0103 nu mai lu\u0103m ca referin\u0163\u0103 timpul. S\u0103 ne imagin\u0103m c\u0103 oamenii de \u015ftiin\u0163\u0103, cu aceste noi tehnologii, se vor str\u00e2nge \u00eentr-o \u00eenc\u0103pere uria\u015f\u0103 \u015fi vor avea \u00een fa\u0163\u0103 un ecran. \u015ei, c\u00e2nd \u00eei vor da drumul, vor afla c\u0103 Universul e plin de via\u0163\u0103, c\u0103 ceva miraculos se afl\u0103 dincolo de P\u0103m\u00e2nt, pun\u00e2nd tot ce-am \u00eenv\u0103\u0163at p\u00e2n\u0103 acum \u00eentr-o nou\u0103 \u015fi diferit\u0103 perspectiv\u0103. N-ar fi cu minunat? 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