{"id":18867,"date":"2011-06-24T18:19:36","date_gmt":"2011-06-24T15:19:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lovendal.net\/wp52\/?p=18867"},"modified":"2011-06-27T09:48:08","modified_gmt":"2011-06-27T06:48:08","slug":"minciuni-ordinare-impotriva-crestinismului-5-iisus-a-trait-in-india-unde-a-devenit-buddhist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/minciuni-ordinare-impotriva-crestinismului-5-iisus-a-trait-in-india-unde-a-devenit-buddhist\/","title":{"rendered":"Minciuni ordinare \u00eempotriva cre\u015ftinismului (5): \u201cIisus a tr\u0103it \u00een India, unde a devenit buddhist\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/Guru705.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-18869\" title=\"Guru705\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/Guru705.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"299\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/Guru705.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/Guru705-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>De-a lungul timpului, despre persoana lui Iisus Hristos au ap\u0103rut o mul\u0163ime de minciuni, scoase la suprafa\u0163\u0103 de adversarii cre\u015ftinismului (\u015fi religiei, \u00een general) cu scopul de a decredibiliza religia cre\u015ftin\u0103. Una din aceste minciuni, promovat\u0103 \u00een special de adep\u0163ii religiei New Age pretinde c\u0103 Iisus, atunci c\u00e2nd a fost copil, s-ar fi dus \u00een India unde ar fi avut ca mae\u015ftri c\u00ee\u0163iva guru hindu\u015fi sau buddhi\u015fti. Mai t\u00e2rziu, Iisus s-ar fi \u00eentors \u00een Israel \u015fi ar fi \u00eenf\u0103ptuit miracolele \u00eenv\u0103\u0163ate de la ace\u015fti guru \u015fi prop\u0103v\u0103duind doctrinele \u00eenv\u0103\u0163ate de la ei. Astfel, prin aceast\u0103 \u00eenv\u0103\u0163\u0103tur\u0103, se neag\u0103 c\u0103 Iisus ar fi Fiul lui Dumnezeu, ci un simplu om care a devenit iluminat datorit\u0103 mae\u015ftrilor indieni. Iar cre\u015ftinismul ar avea astfel o origine indian\u0103\/buddhist\u0103! \u015ei exist\u0103 oameni care cred o asemenea abera\u0163ie! Dar exist\u0103 asem\u0103n\u0103ri \u00eentre principiile filozofice ale hinduismului sau buddhismului cu cre\u015ftinismului? Dup\u0103 c\u00e2te vom ar\u0103ta \u00een acest articol, NU!<\/p>\n<p>Dar mai \u00eent\u00e2i, s\u0103 trecem \u00een revist\u0103 un articol ap\u0103rut pe site-ul <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ziare.com\/social\/religie\/enigma-a-bibliei-aproape-de-a-fi-dezlegata-iisus-a-trait-in-india-1069056\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Ziare.com<\/strong><\/a> pe 16 ianuarie 2011 referitor la acest subiect:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u00cen Biblie nu exist\u0103 nicio relatare despre via\u0163a lui Iisus, \u00eentre 12 \u015fi 30 de ani. Un vechi manuscris budist spune c\u0103 Iisus, cunoscut sub numele Issa, \u015fi-a tr\u0103it tinere\u0163ea \u00een India. \u00cen 1894, un ziarist rus a publicat, dup\u0103 o c\u0103l\u0103torie \u00een Tibet, o carte intitulat\u0103 &#8222;Via\u0163\u0103 necunoscut\u0103 a lui Iisus Christos&#8221;. Biblia ni-l descrie pe Iisus la v\u00e2rsta de 12 ani, c\u00e2nd \u00eempreun\u0103 cu p\u0103rin\u0163ii s\u0103i, Iosif \u015fi Maria, a fost la Ierusalim, de praznicul Pa\u015ftilor. P\u0103rin\u0163ii \u00eel pierd pe Iisus, timp de trei zile, pentru a-l descoperi \u00een Templu. Dup\u0103 acest episod, Iisus apare \u00een Biblie la v\u00e2rsta de 30 de ani, c\u00e2nd a fost botezat de Ioan. Unde \u015fi-a petrecut via\u0163a, Iisus \u00een aceast\u0103 perioad\u0103? Un r\u0103spuns ar fi c\u0103 Iisus, cunoscut sub numele Issa, a petrecut \u015faptesprezece ani \u00een India \u015fi Tibet.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen anul 1894, Nicolas Notovici, doctor \u015fi jurnalist rus a publicat o carte intitulat\u0103 <em>&#8222;Via\u0163\u0103 necunoscut\u0103 a lui Iisus Christos&#8221;<\/em>. El a scris aceast\u0103 carte \u00een urma unei c\u0103l\u0103torii \u00een Afganistan, India \u015fi Tibet. Ajung\u00e2nd la m\u0103n\u0103stirea Himis, \u00een Ladak, \u00een mun\u0163ii Himalaya, lui i s-au ar\u0103tat de c\u0103tre Marele Lama dou\u0103 volume vechi, legate \u00een piele, \u00een care se spunea despre via\u0163a lui Issa, cum era cunoscut \u00een zona Iisus. Documentele aduse din India \u00een Nepal \u015fi apoi \u00een Tibet au fost scrise, \u00een original, \u00een limba pali, limba religioas\u0103 a budi\u015ftilor. Copiile de la Himis fuseser\u0103 traduse \u00een tibetan\u0103. Interpretul lui Notovici i-a tradus textul.<\/p>\n<p>Biografia lui Issa era alc\u0103tuit\u0103 din 244 de versete, \u00een 14 capitole. Cartea con\u0163ine \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103ri similare celor din Vechiul \u015fi Noul Testament, precum robia Egiptului, m\u00e2ntuirea poporului lui Israel de c\u0103tre Moise, lep\u0103darea de credin\u0163\u0103 a israeli\u0163ilor. Apoi se spune despre Issa, care la 14 ani a trecut prin Sing, o regiune din Pakistan \u015fi s-a stabilit printre arieni. El a plecat mai departe \u015fi s-a stabilit la Juggernaut, unde a fost primit cu bucurie de c\u0103tre preo\u0163ii brahmani. A locuit \u00een mai multe ora\u015fe din India, c\u0103 Rajagriha, Benares, unde a studiat Vedele. P\u0103r\u0103sind Juggernaut-ul s-a stabilit \u00een \u0163inutul Gautamides, locul de na\u015ftere al marelui Buddha Sakyamuni. Dup\u0103 ce \u015fi-a des\u0103v\u00e2r\u015fit cuno\u015ftin\u0163ele \u00een limba pali, Issa a \u00eenceput s\u0103 studieze scrierile sacre ale Sutra-elor. Apoi a p\u0103r\u0103sit Nepalul \u015fi mun\u0163ii Himalaya, a cobor\u00e2t \u00een valea Rajputanei \u015fi s-a \u00eendreptat c\u0103tre apus, predic\u00e2nd diverselor popoare perfec\u0163iunea suprem\u0103 a omului.<\/p>\n<p>Cuvintele lui Issa s-au r\u0103sp\u00e2ndit printre p\u0103g\u00e2nii \u0163inuturilor pe care le-a traversat. Issa a p\u0103r\u0103sit Himalaya \u015fi s-a \u00eentors \u00een Palestina, la v\u00e2rsta de 29 de ani. O m\u0103rturie care confirm\u0103 spusese lui Notovici, vine de la Sri Daya Mata, care public\u0103 \u00een 1959, un interviu cu Sri Bharati Krishna din India. <em>&#8222;\u00cen 1959, am discutat aceast\u0103 cu unul dintre cei mai mari lideri spirituali din India, Sanctitatea s\u0103 Sri Bharati Krihna Tirtha. I-am spus despre faptul c\u0103 Iisus Christos \u015fi-ar fi petrecut o parte din via\u0163\u0103 \u00een India. El a spus: &#8216;Acesta este adev\u0103rul. Am studiat vechile documente de la Templul Puri Jaggannath care confirm\u0103 aceste fapte.. El a fost cunoscut c\u0103 Issa \u015fi o mare parte din timpul petrecut \u00een India, a stat la Tempul din Jaggannath. C\u00e2nd s-a \u00eentors \u00een \u0163inuturile de unde provenea, el \u015fi-a expus \u00eenv\u0103\u0163\u0103mintele, care sunt cunoscute ast\u0103zi ca fiind crestine'&#8221;.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Vor ie\u015fi la lumina aceste manuscrise vechi din India, pentru a ne convinge c\u0103, \u00eentr-adev\u0103r Iisus \u015fi-a petrecut mul\u0163i ani \u00een India \u015fi \u00een Tibet? O enigm\u0103 a Bibliei, care se pare, c\u0103 \u00een cur\u00e2nd, va fi dezlegat\u0103.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Dar, toate aceste idei sunt aberante \u015fi constituie iar un atac mi\u015felesc la adresa cre\u015ftinismului, a\u015fa cum ne-am obi\u015fnuit p\u00e2n\u0103 acum. A\u015fadar:<\/p>\n<p><strong>(1) \u00cen filozofiile religioase indiene se promoveaz\u0103 panteismul, pe c\u00e2nd Iisus ni-l prezint\u0103 pe Dumnezeu ca fiind unul transcendental<\/strong>. Indienii credeau \u00een panteism, adic\u0103 concep\u0163ia filozofic\u0103 care identific\u0103 divinitatea cu \u00eentreaga materie \u015fi \u00eentreg Universul (sau cum spunea Spinoza &#8222;Natura sau Dumnezeu&#8221;). Dar Iisus Hristos ne \u00eenva\u0163\u0103 (la fel ca \u015fi Biblia) c\u0103 Dumnezeu este cel care a creat lumea, fiind un Creator transcendental, ce nu se poate identifica cu Natura. Dac\u0103 Iisus ar fi fost \u00een India, cu siguran\u0163\u0103 c\u0103 cre\u015ftinismul ar fi promovat ideea panteismului.<\/p>\n<p><strong>(2) Iisus n-a citat vreodat\u0103 din vreo carte religioas\u0103 indian\u0103<\/strong>. \u00cen tot Noul Testament, Iisus n-a citat niciodat\u0103 din Vedele indiene, ci numai din Vechiul Testament evreiesc. De exemplu, \u00een Marcu 12:29 se spune: <em>&#8222;Iisus i-a r\u0103spuns c\u0103 \u00eent\u00e2ia este: &#8222;Ascult\u0103 Israele, Domnul Dumnezeul nostru este singurul Domn&#8221;<\/em>. Cum se face c\u0103 Iisus nu citeaz\u0103 nicio carte sf\u00e2nt\u0103 din India, dac\u0103 \u015fi-ar fi petrecut acolo tinere\u0163ea? Cam curios faptul, nu-i a\u015fa?<\/p>\n<p><strong>(3) \u00cen Biblie exist\u0103 dovezi indirecte conform c\u0103rora Iisus Hristos a r\u0103mas \u00een Palestina \u00een timpul copil\u0103riei \u015fi adolescen\u0163ei Sale.<\/strong> E adev\u0103rat c\u0103 \u00een Biblie nu se poveste\u015fte pe larg copil\u0103ria \u015fi adolescen\u0163a lui Iisus \u015fi asta \u00eentruc\u00e2t via\u0163a Sa \u00een acea perioad\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 fi fost una simpl\u0103 \u015fi obi\u015fnuit\u0103, ce nu ar fi necesitat aten\u0163ie din partea evangheli\u015ftilor. \u015ei totu\u015fi, \u00een Luca2:52 ni se spune urm\u0103toarele:<em> &#8222;\u015ei Iisus sporea cu \u00een\u0163elepciunea \u015fi cu v\u00e2rsta \u015fi cu harul la Dumnezeu \u015fi la oameni.&#8221; <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Iisus era, desigur, \u015fi om \u015fi Dumnezeu. Ca Dumnezeu, El era omniescent \u015fi omni-\u00een\u0163elept; El nu ar fi putut &#8222;cre\u015fte \u00een \u00een\u0163elepciune&#8221; din perspectiva divin\u0103. Ca om, totu\u015fi, Iisus probabil c\u0103 a c\u0103p\u0103tat \u00een\u0163elepciune ca \u015fi ceilal\u0163i copii evrei, prin ascultarea \u015fi \u00eenv\u0103\u0163area Vechiului Testament (la care El face referin\u0163\u0103 de at\u00e2tea ori \u00een Biblie).<\/p>\n<p><strong>(4) Iisus Hristos a fost r\u0103mas cunoscut \u00een comunitatea Sa ca fiind &#8222;dulgher&#8221; \u015fi &#8222;fiul dulgherului&#8221;<\/strong>. Acest lucru se poate desprinde din Biblie din versetul: <em>&#8222;Au nu este Acesta teslarul, fiul Mariei \u015fi fratele lui Iacov \u015fi al lui  Iosi \u015fi al lui Iuda \u015fi al lui Simon? \u015ei nu sunt, oare, surorile Lui aici  la noi? \u015ei se sminteau \u00eentru El&#8221;<\/em> (Marcu 6:3). La fel, \u015fi meseria de baz\u0103 a lui Iisus Hristos era aceea de &#8222;t\u00e2mplar&#8221;. \u00cen vremurile acelea, era un obicei \u00een r\u00e2ndurile evreilor ca ta\u0163ii s\u0103-\u015fi \u00eenve\u0163e fiii o meserie. Iosif l-a \u00eenv\u0103\u0163at pe Iisus meseria dulgheriei, odat\u0103 ce Iisus devenea adolescent. \u00cen plus, dulgheria a jucat un rol important \u00een via\u0163a Sa, acest lucru rezult\u00e2nd din unele parabole \u015fi \u00eenv\u0103\u0163\u0103turi pe care Iisus le-a expus. Dac\u0103 Iisus ar fi fost plecat \u00een timpul copil\u0103riei \u015fi adolescen\u0163ei Sale \u00een India, c\u00e2nd ar mai fi \u00eenv\u0103\u0163at meseria t\u00e2mpl\u0103riei?<\/p>\n<p><strong>(5) \u00cen Noul Testament se arat\u0103 clar c\u0103 Iisus a crescut \u00een Nazaret<\/strong>. \u00cen Luca 4:16 g\u0103sim un text-cheie care repinge ideea c\u0103 Iisus s-ar fi dus \u00een India \u00een timpul copil\u0103riei \u015fi adolescen\u0163ei Sale:<em> &#8222;\u015ei a venit \u00een Nazaret, unde fusese crescut, \u015fi, dup\u0103 obiceiul S\u0103u, a  intrat \u00een ziua s\u00e2mbetei \u00een sinagog\u0103 \u015fi S-a sculat s\u0103 citeasc\u0103&#8221;<\/em>. A\u015fadar, afl\u0103m clar c\u0103 Iisus a fost crescut \u00een Nazaret \u015fi nu \u00een India, obiceiul S\u0103u fiind acela de a vizita sinagogi \u015fi nu temple hinduse.<\/p>\n<p><strong>(6) \u00cen Biblie, Iisus e v\u0103zut drept un localnic cunoscut de comunitatea Sa \u015fi nu ca un nou venit<\/strong>. Iar\u0103\u015fi apel\u0103m la Biblie \u015fi ajungem la versetul din Luca 4:22: <em>&#8222;\u015ei to\u0163i \u00cel \u00eencuviin\u0163au \u015fi se mirau de cuvintele harului care ie\u015feau din  gura Lui \u015fi ziceau: Nu este, oare, Acesta fiul lui Iosif?&#8221; <\/em>Deci, to\u0163i \u00eel cuno\u015fteau ca fiind &#8222;fiul lui Iosif&#8221;; a\u015fadar era recunoscut \u00een comunitatea local\u0103.<\/p>\n<p><strong>(7) Iisus Hristos n-a sus\u0163inut niciodat\u0103 re\u00eencarnarea<\/strong>. At\u00e2t hinduismul, c\u00e2t \u015fi buddhismul sus\u0163in, printre altele, existen\u0163a re\u00eencarn\u0103rii. Pe de alt\u0103 parte, Iisus Hristos nu a sus\u0163inut \u00een nicio cuv\u00e2ntare de a sa filozofia re\u00eencarn\u0103rii. Nu e ciudat ca Iisus Hristos, dac\u0103 ar fi \u00eenv\u0103\u0163at \u00een India, s\u0103 nu propov\u0103duiasc\u0103 una din marile \u00eenv\u0103\u0163\u0103turi ale religiilor indiene, care este re\u00eencarnarea?<\/p>\n<p>Iat\u0103 doar \u015fapte motive pentru care trebuie s\u0103 respingem \u00eenc\u0103 o abera\u0163ie la adresa cre\u015ftinismului&#8230; \u015ei dezv\u0103luirile despre minciunile ordinare \u00eempotriva cre\u015ftinismului vor continua \u015fi \u00een alte episoade!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>De-a lungul timpului, despre persoana lui Iisus Hristos au ap\u0103rut o mul\u0163ime de minciuni, scoase la suprafa\u0163\u0103 de adversarii cre\u015ftinismului (\u015fi religiei, \u00een general) cu scopul de a decredibiliza religia cre\u015ftin\u0103. 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