{"id":18403,"date":"2011-05-19T19:27:38","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T16:27:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lovendal.net\/wp52\/?p=18403"},"modified":"2011-05-22T10:39:46","modified_gmt":"2011-05-22T07:39:46","slug":"ateismul-se-inseala-amarnic-viata-e-prea-complexa-pentru-a-nu-fi-creata-de-o-inteligenta-superioara","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/ateismul-se-inseala-amarnic-viata-e-prea-complexa-pentru-a-nu-fi-creata-de-o-inteligenta-superioara\/","title":{"rendered":"Ateismul se \u00een\u015feal\u0103 amarnic: via\u0163a e prea complex\u0103 pentru a nu fi creat\u0103 de o \u201cInteligen\u0163\u0103 Superioar\u0103\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"<\/a>Problema originii vie\u0163ii este una foarte complex\u0103 \u015fi de-a lungul timpul s-au \u00eenfruntat dou\u0103 tabere: crea\u0163ioni\u015ftii (ce cred c\u0103 totul, inclusiv via\u0163a, a fost creat \u015fi pl\u0103nuit de c\u0103tre Dumnezeu) \u015fi evolu\u0163ioni\u015ftii (care cred c\u0103 via\u0163a a ap\u0103rut din \u00eent\u00e2mplare). \u00cen acest articol, voi prezenta c\u00e2teva citate din oameni de \u015ftiin\u0163\u0103 renumi\u0163i (mul\u0163i dintre ei chiar atei\u015fti sau agnostici), prin care ei \u00ee\u015fi expun \u00eendoiala c\u0103 via\u0163a ar fi putut apare \u015fi evolua din \u00eent\u00e2mplare.<\/p>\n

Aviz fanilor lui Stephen Hawking care credea c\u0103 via\u0163a \u015fi Universul au ap\u0103rut spontan, din nimic (vezi https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/stephen-hawking-crede-ca-viata-de-apoi-este-un-basm-vai-de-capul-lui\/<\/strong><\/a>).<\/p>\n

Atei\u015ftii recunosc existen\u0163a unui „plan” a Universului \u015fi a vie\u0163ii<\/strong><\/p>\n

Expertul \u00een biologie molecular\u0103, Dr. Michael Denton, cunoscut drept agnostic, spunea referindu-se la mecanismele din fiin\u0163ele vii:<\/p>\n

„Chiar \u015fi tehnologia cea mai avansat\u0103 pe care o avem noi \u00een prezent p\u0103le\u015fte dac\u0103 ne raport\u0103m la nivelul de inteligen\u0163\u0103 \u015fi de complexitate oferit de ma\u015fin\u0103ria molecular\u0103 a vie\u0163ii (…) Ar fi o iluzie s\u0103 credem c\u0103 noi cunoa\u015ftem \u00een prezent mai mult dec\u00e2t o mic\u0103 parte din \u00eentreaga ma\u015fin\u0103rie biologic\u0103. Cu fiecare cercetare efectuat\u0103, sunt dezv\u0103luite forme de complexitate a vie\u0163ii \u015fi mai avansate”.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Profesorul Richard Dawkins, unul dintre principalii promotori ai ateismului, recuno\u015ftea \u015fi el, \u00eentr-un moment de sinceritate c\u0103:<\/p>\n

„Am v\u0103zut c\u0103 fiin\u0163ele vii sunt prea minunat „construite” pentru a ajunge la existen\u0163\u0103 din \u00eent\u00e2mplare”.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Astfel, chiar \u015fi cel mai fervent dintre atei\u015fti recunoa\u015fte c\u0103 „planul”, „construc\u0163ia” se afl\u0103 la baza cre\u0103rii Universului \u015fi a vie\u0163ii, de\u015fi nu vrea s\u0103 recunoasc\u0103 existen\u0163a Constructorului sau a Planificatorului. Dar, pentru un om religios totul este clar: „planul” vie\u0163ii \u015fi a Universului a fost realizat de c\u0103tre Dumnezeu.<\/p>\n

Selec\u0163ia natural\u0103 nu produce informa\u0163ii noi<\/strong><\/p>\n

Via\u0163a este construit\u0103 pe informa\u0163ii care sunt con\u0163inute \u00een moleculele eredit\u0103\u0163ii, ADN-ul. Ateistul Dawkins sus\u0163ine faptul c\u0103 selec\u0163ia natural\u0103 \u015fi muta\u0163iile („for\u0163ele oarbe ale fizicii” cum le nume\u015fte el) ofer\u0103 tot mecanismul pentru a produce mari cantit\u0103\u0163i de informa\u0163ii responsabile de „construc\u0163ia” fiin\u0163elor vii.<\/p>\n

Selec\u0163ia natural\u0103 este un proces logic ce poate fi observat. Totu\u015fi, selec\u0163ia poate opera doar asupra informa\u0163iilor ce sunt deja con\u0163inute \u00een gene: nu produce noi informa\u0163ii, ci doar o rearanjare \u015fi sortare a lor. Nu a fost niciodat\u0103 observat\u0103 apari\u0163ia unei noi forme de via\u0163\u0103, ce ar con\u0163ine informa\u0163ii ce nu au existat niciodat\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 atunci. Acest lucru \u00eel spune \u015fi Biblia, de exemplu: Dumnezeu a creat animalele \u015fi plantele, fiecare din ele reproduc\u00e2ndu-se \u015fi evolu\u00e2nd ulterior, \u00een func\u0163ie de mediul lor. Dar evolu\u0163ioni\u015ftii cred gre\u015fit c\u0103 muta\u0163iile ar produce \u00eentr-un fel noi informa\u0163ii. Gre\u015fit! Dac\u0103 ai la dispozi\u0163ia doar 3 cifre (1,2 \u015fi3) po\u0163i face combina\u0163ii de numere \u00eentre cele 3 cifre (123; 213; 312 etc.), dar niciodat\u0103 n-ai s\u0103 po\u0163i din combina\u0163ia doar a acestor 3 cifre s\u0103 ias\u0103 cifra 9, de exemplu. Pentru mai multe detalii, vezi seria de articole dedicate acestui subiect:
\n– https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/evolutionismul-o-mare-minciuna-partea-1-selectia-naturala-nu-inseamna-evolutionism\/<\/strong><\/a>
\n– https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/evolutionismul-o-mare-minciuna-partea-2-toate-speciile-au-aparut-dezvoltate-complet-si-nu-au-evoluat2\/<\/strong><\/a>
\n– https:\/\/www.lovendal.ro\/wp52\/evolutionismul-o-mare-minciuna-partea-3-viata-nu-a-aparut-dintr-o-intamplare\/<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

Ar putea muta\u0163iile produce noi informa\u0163ii? R\u0103spunsul este clar NU! Dr. Lee Spetner, de la Universitatea Johns Hopkins, o autoritate recent\u0103, ne explic\u0103 de ce \u00eentr-o carte de a sa recent\u0103:<\/p>\n

„\u00cen acest capitol am s\u0103 v\u0103 dau c\u00e2teva exemple de evolu\u0163ii, \u00een special muta\u0163ii \u015fi am s\u0103 v\u0103 ar\u0103t c\u0103 toat\u0103 cantitatea de informa\u0163ii n-a crescut (… Din toate studiile citite p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een prezent, n-am g\u0103sit niciun exemplu despre o muta\u0163ie care s\u0103 adauge informa\u0163ii (…) Toate muta\u0163iile care au fost studiate la nivel molecular arat\u0103 c\u0103 informa\u0163iile genetice au sc\u0103zut \u015fi nu au crescut (…) Noua teorie darwinian\u0103 presupune c\u0103 ar putea explica cum a fost construit\u0103 via\u0163a prin evolu\u0163ie. Diferen\u0163a biologic\u0103 fundamental\u0103 dintre un om \u015fi o bacterie este informa\u0163ia pe care ea o con\u0163ine. Genomul uman are mai multe informa\u0163ii dec\u00e2t genomul bacteriei. Dar informa\u0163iile nu pot fi construite prin muta\u0163ii, prin care se pierd informa\u0163ii. O afacere nu poate face profit, pierz\u00e2nd \u00een acela\u015fi timp bani”.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

A\u015fadar, muta\u0163iile nu pot func\u0163iona ca mecanism pentru explicarea evolu\u0163iei vie\u0163ii.<\/p>\n

Ma\u015fin\u0103riile complexe din interiorul vie\u0163ii<\/strong><\/p>\n

Dar exist\u0103 \u015fi o alt\u0103 problem\u0103 mai complicat\u0103. Oamenii de \u015ftiin\u0163\u0103 au descoperit c\u0103 \u00een interiorul unei celule se afl\u0103 mii de „ma\u015finini biochimice”. Toate aceste „ma\u015fini” trebuie s\u0103 lucreze simultan, c\u0103ci altfel celula nu ar putea func\u0163iona. Lucruri care se credeau a fi simple mecanisme, s-au dovedit a fi extrem de complicate. Din moment ce via\u0163a s-a cl\u0103dit pe aceste „ma\u015fini”, ideea apari\u0163iei spontane a vie\u0163ii \u015fi evolu\u0163iei naturale este absolut ridicol\u0103. Biochimistul Dr. Michael Behe explic\u0103:<\/p>\n

„\u00cen interiorul celulelor se afl\u0103 sisteme de o complexitate incredibil\u0103. Concluzia conform c\u0103reia via\u0163a a fost creat\u0103 de o inteligen\u0163\u0103 este una \u015focant\u0103 pentru secolul \u00een care tr\u0103im, \u00een care am fost obi\u015fnui\u0163i cu ideea c\u0103 via\u0163a este rezultatul simplu al legilor naturale”.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\u00centr-adev\u0103r, avem parte de o problem\u0103! Cu c\u00e2t studiem mai detaliat procesele moleculare ale vie\u0163ii, cu at\u00e2t ne d\u0103m seama c\u0103 totul devine din ce \u00een ce mai complicat \u015fi cu at\u00e2t realiz\u0103m faptul c\u0103 via\u0163a nu s-ar fi putut ivi din ea \u00eens\u0103\u015fi. Ma\u015fin\u0103riile complexe ale chimiei vie\u0163ii ar fi trebuit s\u0103 fie acolo \u00eenc\u0103 de la \u00eenceputul vie\u0163ii.<\/p>\n

Ma\u015fin\u0103ria primelor celule nu putea apare aleator!<\/strong><\/p>\n

Unii atei\u015fti insist\u0103 pe ideea c\u0103 ma\u015fin\u0103ria primei celule ar fi ap\u0103rut din pur\u0103 \u00eent\u00e2mplare. De exemplu, spun ei, tr\u0103g\u00e2nd ni\u015fte litere la \u00eent\u00e2mplare dintr-o p\u0103l\u0103rie, putem uneori s\u0103 extragem un cuv\u00e2nt simplu ca de exemplu „SAC”. A\u015fa c\u0103, \u0163in\u00e2nd cont de perioadele imense de timp, de ce n-ar fi putut ca informa\u0163iile s\u0103 apar\u0103 \u00een mod aleator?<\/p>\n

La acest argument, se pot spune urm\u0103toarele lucruri:<\/p>\n

– ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 cuv\u00e2ntul „SAC” pentru un chinez sau un german? Nimic. Ideea e c\u0103 o ordine a literelor n-are nicio valoare dac\u0103 nu exist\u0103 o conven\u0163ie lingvistic\u0103 \u015fi un sistem de traducere care s-o fac\u0103 plin\u0103 de \u00een\u0163eles. \u00centr-o celul\u0103 exist\u0103 un asemenea sistem. ADN-ul f\u0103r\u0103 un sistem de limbaj sau de traducere n-are niciun sens, la fel cum \u015fi aceste sisteme f\u0103r\u0103 ADN n-ar putea lucra.<\/p>\n

– ma\u015fin\u0103ria pentru traducere sau limbaj, care cite\u015fte ordinea literelor \u00een ADN, este ea \u00eens\u0103\u015fi specificat\u0103 de c\u0103tre ADN. Aceasta \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 e nevoie de \u00eenc\u0103 o ma\u015fin\u0103, pentru ca via\u0163a s\u0103 poat\u0103 exista.<\/p>\n

Pot informa\u0163iile s\u0103 apar\u0103 din non-informa\u0163ii? Categoric NU!<\/strong><\/p>\n

Dr. Werner Gitt, directorul Institului Federal German de Fizic\u0103 \u015fi Tehnologie, spune c\u0103 \u00een mod clar \u015ftiin\u0163a este sigur\u0103 de faptul c\u0103 informa\u0163iile nu pot ap\u0103rea \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103tor din haos. Pentru a se produce informa\u0163ii, e nevoie de mai multe informa\u0163ii \u015fi, \u00een final, informa\u0163iile reprezint\u0103 rezultatul unei inteligen\u0163e:<\/p>\n

„Un sistem de cod este \u00eentotdeauna rezultatul unui proces mental (necesit\u0103 o inteligen\u0163\u0103 sau un inventator). Trebuie subliniat faptul c\u0103 materia nu poate s\u0103 genereze un asemenea cod. Toate experien\u0163ele indic\u0103 faptul c\u0103 e nevoie de o g\u00e2ndire, care este exercitat\u0103 voluntar prin liber\u0103 voin\u0163\u0103, cogni\u0163ie \u015fi creativitate (…) Nu exist\u0103 niciun proces natural prin care materia s\u0103 dea na\u015ftere la informa\u0163ii<\/strong>, \u015fi niciun proces fizic sau fenomen material cunoscut care s\u0103 poat\u0103 face acest lucru”.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Care e sursa primar\u0103 a inteligen\u0163ei? Dumnezeu<\/strong><\/p>\n

Astfel, de aici putem deduce c\u0103 uria\u015fa cantitate de informa\u0163ii din fiin\u0163ele vii trebuie s\u0103 fi provenit dintr-o inteligen\u0163\u0103, care este cu mult superioar\u0103 inteligen\u0163ei noastre. Unii ar putea spune c\u0103 o asemenea inteligen\u0163\u0103 superioar\u0103 ar trebui \u015fi ea s\u0103 aib\u0103 drept surs\u0103 o inteligen\u0163\u0103 \u015fi mai superioar\u0103. \u015ei a\u015fa am putea merge cu ra\u0163ionamentul p\u00e2n\u0103 la infinit….dar e inutil. Oricum nu chiar p\u00e2n\u0103 la infinit, c\u0103ci sursa primar\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 fie o inteligen\u0163\u0103 infinit\u0103, deasupra inteligen\u0163ei noastre finite. Iar aceast\u0103 inteligen\u0163\u0103 infinit\u0103, f\u0103r\u0103 limit\u0103ri ale timpului \u015fi spa\u0163iului, nu poate fi dec\u00e2t Dumnezeu.<\/p>\n

Marea majoritate a oamenilor de \u015ftiin\u0163\u0103 nu-\u015fi doresc o fiin\u0163\u0103 supranatural\u0103 care s\u0103 afecteze natura<\/strong><\/p>\n

A\u015fadar, care din aceste posibilit\u0103\u0163i sunt mai rezonabile? Faptul c\u0103 materia a existat dintotdeauna sau a intrat \u00een existen\u0163\u0103 singur\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 niciun motiv, din \u00eent\u00e2mplare \u015fi apoi s-ar fi aranjat singur\u0103 \u00een sisteme informa\u0163ionale extrem de complexe, \u00een ciuda faptului c\u0103 nu exist\u0103 dovezi \u015ftiin\u0163ifice pentru acest lucru? Sau poate c\u0103 o fiin\u0163\u0103 cu o inteligen\u0163\u0103 infinit\u0103 a creat sistemele informa\u0163ionale pentru ca via\u0163a s\u0103 existe? Alege\u0163i voi varianta cea mai logic\u0103 \u015fi mai probabil\u0103. R\u0103spunsul pare evident, dar de ce nu to\u0163i oamenii de \u015ftiin\u0163\u0103 \u00eel accept\u0103? Acela\u015fi Dr. Michael Behe de care am vorbit mai sus explic\u0103:<\/p>\n

„Mul\u0163i oameni, aici incluz\u00e2nd oameni de \u015ftiin\u0163\u0103 importan\u0163i \u015fi extrem de respecta\u0163i, nu vor ca s\u0103 existe altceva dincolo de natur\u0103. Ei nu vor o fiin\u0163\u0103 supranatural\u0103 care s\u0103 afecteze natura, indiferent c\u00e2t de mic\u0103 sau de constructiv\u0103 ar putea fi interac\u0163iunea. Cu alte cuvinte, ei au un ata\u015fament filozofic a priori fa\u0163\u0103 de \u015ftiin\u0163\u0103, comportament care le restric\u0163ioneaz\u0103 ce fel de explica\u0163ii pot accepta despre lumea fizic\u0103. Uneori, acest lucru duce c\u0103tre un comportament ciudat”.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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